Posts tagged Thunderbird
When you thought there was nothing more you could do with emails!
4I recently read the following:
The only thing that has changed with email in the last ten years is that everyone gets more of it. Email is overflowing with information. It’s hard to find what you need. It’s hard to know what you have.

I have for a few years been advocating for using Thunderbird, and I was one of the first sysadmins at work to ditch Eudora in favor of Thunderbird. Simply cause Thunderbird supported IMAP far better then Eudora.
It saddens me to see that the Mozilla Foundation doesn’t see the value of their email client, with their delays of version 3.x and integrating a decent calendar application. Their lack of interest in developing Thunderbird, made me first look at Spicebird. But development of Spicebird also seems to have halted …
I then had a quick look at Evolution for Windows (not even including a link to a download page, to spare you the time and trouble). It got uninstalled faster then I installed it!
It was time to bite the dust, and conclude that I haven’t found any 3rd party email client able to compete with Microsoft. I first tried the latest beta of Windows Live Mail (to be release in 2009). I must admit that it both looked far better then the current state of Thunderbird and also worked better! It has one short-coming, together with Outlook, I wasn’t been able to get LDAP working correctly. More or less at the same time I read about Xobni (Zob-nee – Inbox spelled backwards), and decided to install Outlook for the first time in years. But this is not a review of Outlook, but rather of one of it’s add-ons.
Xobni is the most amazing email productivity tool I ever seen for an email client, and lets you look at your email inbox from a whole new perspective. The add-on improves management of messages and contacts, one of Outlook’s biggest shortcomings.
Xobni indexes your mail (and it even works brilliantly with IMAP), so you can search for contacts and text (please also read my article about Search in Windows 7). The add-on uses the indexed information to create it’s contact profiles. If you’re reading a message from for instance Elin … (one of my colleagues – screenshot), it will show you the number of e-mail messages Elin has sent you, broken down by the time of day they were sent. You will also be able to tell when Elin tends to respond during the day. Perfect for me that needs to plan my working days, I now know that most of my scientific staff then to writing their emails in the morning and late in the evening.
Your contact profiles show (with a photo, from LinkedIn – I have now started using this social service – or if you have manually added one) in the top of the Xobni pane; the application will pick each contact’s phone number if included in the emails. Below each contact profile, you see a thread of conversations you’ve had and files you’ve exchanged. Xobni also creates a kind of social network by keeping track of any additional recipients on email messages sent to you. You can add your friends’contacts to your address book or quickly draft e-mail to them from within Xobni. If you have Skype installed, Xobni integrates it; a quick tap of a phone number within a Xobni profile generates a SkypeOut call. Two template options also appear in this pane: One creates a blank email, and the other creates a meeting request.
You can use Xobni for simple searches within Outlook, too, and it often returns results much more quickly than Outlook’s own inbuilt search does. Xobni also goes far beyond speedy searching, providing logical social information and extended functionality that Outlook simply doesn’t. Instead of treating mail conversations, contacts, and calendars as separate entities, Xobni weaves them together in a responsive, intuitive interface.
Another feature I haven’t even talked about is the Xobni Analytics that’s available. Loads of graphs and charts providing information like:
- Daily summaries
- Mail traffic
- Response times
- Unique contacts
- Folders used
- Subjects
- Recipient types
- Flag status
- Context of e-mails
- and lots more
Windows Live – A great set of applications
2Lately I have become more and more tired of Mozilla, with it’s two main applications, Firefox and Thunderbird. I have always considered Firefox as bloatware and sadly seen that Thunderbird as a project has never gotten the attention that it’s deserves. Who can tell me when Thunderbird v3.0 is gonna be released?
Cloud Computing is today a term I more or less hear daily. Rich Web2.0 applications on the web are great for those who are often out traveling without a computer. Microsoft has managed to ride the Web2.0 wave in a balanced, impressive way with it’s Live applications. I have been using Internet Explorer 8 beta 2 since the day it came out, and today I installed Microsoft Live Suite with updated versions of Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Photo Gallery, Windows Live Writer and of course Live Messenger.
Windows Live Mail impresses me a lot. Where Mozilla tries to integrate a horrible looking Lightning in to Thunderbird, Microsoft has released a mail client with an inbuilt calendar and an addressbook well integrated with their IM client, Live Messenger.
Windows Live Photo Gallery is already my preferred gallery application. It replaced Google Picasa and Flickr Uploadr. The application supports plugins for image services on the net and the CMS solution Drupal.
This article was of course written and published from Microsoft’s AtomPub-enabled Live Writer (who says Microsoft never follows standards?). The latest version lets you add maps, DiggThis and Geo Microformats direct from the client. Also this application supports plugins, but none are yet available.
Spicebird – An Enhanced Thunderbird Client
3Today I learned about Spicebird, an open source Mozilla-based collaboration application. The application is developed by the Indian company Synovel Technologies, and is based on Thunderbird, Sunbird/Lightning and SamePlace.
Spicebird is still in an early stage of development, it’s current release is only v0.4. But having said that a lot of features is already implemented, and the application is ready to use. The developers have also published a roadmap, with quite a few interesting planed features:
- Blogs as Email (Thunderbird addon/Spicebird built-in)
- Post to blogs just as you send mails to your friends
- See comments as replies to your mail
- Instant Messaging
- UI improvements to make is as easy as typical IM application
- Store IM conversations
- Home screen applet for buddy list
- Better chat window
- Integration with a CMS (Drupal)
- Document management
- Microsoft Exchange connector
- A more meaningful address book
- Last conversation/chat with a contact
I must say that the roadmap includes a lot of features that I really am looking forward to. My big question when having tried and perhaps started to use Spicebird, is what about MailCo? Will these two projects work together? Another question is, do we need MailCo?
I have a few suggestions for functionality that should be added to the roadmap:
- The installer should search for Thunderbird settings and if you want to import your mails, addresses and settings, as I guess many of your users will be previous Thunderbird users.
- The configuration tool that runs the first time you start, let you choose to set up a Gmail account, but why not rather let the user write in his/her Google account name and password. Spicebird could then check what Google services you are using, gmail, gtalk and gcal etc. and ask which of the services the user would like to configure to use with this application.
- Use online maps in the address book, Yahoo Maps or Google Maps. A small map (for instance 240×320 pixels or user defined for export to phones like iPhone) should be part of the address card.
- Work with developers of Firefox Microformat plugin developers, so that address information on a webpage can be easily imported, also with map information.
- Auto-detection of SSL and TLS for the e-mail client.
- Add STARTTLS support in the IM client.
If any of the Spicebird devs should stumble upon this blog entry, surprise me please!
And WOW, this is blog entry number 400!!!
Upgrading to Leo?
0I have the last days gotten a lot of questions about what I think about MacOS X 10.5. I sadly cannot tell you yet, but I will be getting a copy of Leopard from the central computer department at work on Monday or Thuesday. I hope to be able to install it on a test machine the very same day.
I am eager to try many of the new features, but there are also features that we will not be getting full benefit from, as for instance Time Machine. If I have understood it correctly, you will not be able to sync with Time Machine to Samba shares. We also don’t have any MacOS X 10.5 server at work, so any new features on the client OS that is titly integrated with the server OS will not work for us. I personally don’t have an .Mac account any more either, so these features are excluded as well.
There are, as far as I can see, three other real “show stopers” that I will run in to with MacOS X 10.5, two at work and one at home. The Mac guys at the central computer department have, as so many others, not been able to bind the MacOS X 10.5 clients to Active Directory. So what does that mean? We have no working centralized login (network authentification), and that also leads me to the second problem, as we are using Windows servers (kerberos) for printing, we also don’t have any working print service for MacOS X 10.5. Having said this, I should end with saying a few things about the many reviews I have been reading lately: Many of them pisses me off. Why? They compare Vista with Leo. One of the biggest things with Vista is the enhanced use of Active Directory and Group Policies, in other words getting it easier to administrate big networks with Windows machines from one place. Apple also have these tools for clean MacOS networks. But when the magazines write that MacOS X 10.5 is so much better then Vista, and that it should be considered as an option, then please also consider the costs of mantaining a few Macs in an Windows environment! Administrators will find themselves setting most of the configurations manually on each machine. For home users MacOS X might be a great option, especially if you have some friends around that can help you the few times you get stuck on something. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Macs (MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, Cube, Apple TV and iPod Touch).
The third problem I will mostly meet at home, and that is to get Leopard to see Windows file shares on your home network. I have a Vista machine with a bigger hard drive than on the Mac, so I guess that Vista will be used as “server” once in a while.
These are the negative parts, hopefully some of them will be fixed in the nearby future. I have never been the biggest fan of Exposé, so I am really excited about Apple finally integrating virtual desktops in to the OS. Some third party solutions have been around, but not met my needs. I loved BeOS and it’s Workspaces, and by the little I have seen of MacOS X 10.5, I can say that Spaces is the closest I have seen to Workspaces. I will now be a happy “BeOS-user” on my Mac! I am looking forward to try the small integrated applications, like iCal, Mail and iChat. With iCal, what are the new features and can I get them on my iPod Touch? We don’t use Mail at work, but Thunderbird, but I would love to try out the html-templates that comes with Mail, even though I prefer getting mails as simple text! And iChat, wow, finally an easy way to take over the screen and help my scientific staff and now the possibility to work on presentations, spreadsheets and documents together online. Taking over somebody’s screen has also been possible before, but then through Apple Remote Desktop or Timbuktu.
Finally, will all the shareware, freeware and other software that I am using be working? The next following days are gonna be fun.
Thunderbird is dead, long live Thunderbird!
1Finally Mozilla Foundation has decided what to do with Thunderbird, and the decision sounds like music in my ears! Read what the leader of the foundation, chair Mitchell Baker, wrote on her blog and Mozilla’s official press release.
I especially liked the sentence: “Create a better user experience for a range of Internet communications — how does / should email work with IM, RSS, VoIP, SMS, site-specific email, etc?“ I hope that Sameplace gets integrated in to the e-mail client. It is simply a brilliant implementation of XMPP for Thunderbird!
But best of all was probably that neither the blog entry or the press release contained any information about Eudora/Penelope.


